tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post8888972395851859086..comments2024-03-28T13:12:21.029-04:00Comments on On Second Scoop: Ice Cream Reviews: 2018 Frozen Product GuideDubba Scoopshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135130511349727532noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-45690078143010523932018-09-09T09:24:52.796-04:002018-09-09T09:24:52.796-04:00@Anon: Ha, that's a fair question about what w...@Anon: Ha, that's a fair question about what would be an acceptable amount of shelf space for healthy stuff and I doubt I can furnish a good answer. I do realize that we are spoiled with what usually amounts to a half aisle worth of shelf space (seems like most stores have an entire length of aisle dedicated to ice cream like products, but on one side). Maybe I'm just jealous when an endcap goes from being the latest and greatest to being full of all 57 flavors of halo top. I'm going to have to think about the question. I have actually thought of tracking this stat before. Not that long ago we would have 3 pints of B&J's to every 2 pints of H-D to every pint of Talenti.<br /><br />As for the lower calorie count, I'll give a specific example with a half cup serving of Graeter's ice cream. <br />2012 Review: 114g per half cup, 290 calories (160 from fat), 29g of sugar<br />2018 Stats: 101g per half cup, 250 calories (150 from fat), 21g of sugar<br /><br />I also like the example of my son's favorite bread. It's gone from 130 calories a slice, to 110, to 90. 2 old slices is the equivalent to 3 new slices. How frustrating is that (especially factoring in that it is harder to butter).<br /><br />@Amanda: ice cream is a very personal subject :)Dubba Scoopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07135130511349727532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-37890053662205246872018-09-08T23:51:08.933-04:002018-09-08T23:51:08.933-04:00Wowza! Dubba, you get the mic-drop for incorporat...Wowza! Dubba, you get the mic-drop for incorporating the Old English word, "newfangled" into your discussion on ice cream. Who knew the decadent, delicious, pleasurable, sweet utopia one discovers in the multitude of the brightly colored ice cream cardboard pints would evoke such fire and brimstone in your enthralled reading audience? I did not know if I was reading a diatribe on Millennial mindset, MAGA, or Maltitol madness. Fascinating discussion. Truly. And for Mr./Ms. Anon: I live in the Midwest--the Dairy state in fact. You seem to brush a very broad brushstroke with your comment: "70% of Americans are overweight. Anyone who is overweight is not practicing portion control." Perhaps you have heard of HAES? Health At Every Size? It is a newer concept and one in which incorporates genetics, human evolution, socioeconomic status, and many other holistic factors that make up a human's composition. Perhaps people are healthier at a higher weight, i.e., their natural "set-point" is just at a higher level which allows them to fully engage in activity and think clearly while maintaining efficient organ function. You stated that your "not huge" relative still died from Type II diabetes; I would like to note that conversely, there are many people who do not fit neatly on a BMI chart but they still have stellar blood test results. Just because what your eyes deem as an unhealthy or overweight person should be automatically glommed in with this "70%" of America you speak of does not necessarily make your assumption irrefutable. We all have our own battles with our bodies. Assigning a negative connotation to a person's ability to maintain a certain scale number is a very crude assessment of the person's overall worth as a human being. But who am I? Maybe I just have to keep my "head buried in the sand." Amandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-78096553974465072122018-09-08T23:35:48.622-04:002018-09-08T23:35:48.622-04:00If you took my comments as a personal attack again...If you took my comments as a personal attack against you, I do apologize. I really wasn't talking about you (and perhaps I should've clarified that) but I did mean the general narrative of the other comments all over the blog about this topic, not just this thread. I lurk a lot.<br /><br />I know about the whole 64 oz vs. 48 oz thing and 14 oz vs. 16, but where is 110 calories coming from?<br /><br />I looked up the caloric count for the vanilla flavors of Breyers and Turkey Hill and I got 130 and 140 respectively which sounds reasonable to me. I'm sure a lot of people who buy the vanilla are making sundaes so how rich does it need to be?<br /><br />So the 20% of shelf space is the issue? Well, what would be an exceptable percentage to you then? 10%? 6%? I swear, I'm really not being a wiseguy here, I'm genuinely curious now. Because that still leaves 80% of things you CAN eat and peanut butter is ubiquitous in ice cream flavors old and new, which is definitely your thing. <br /><br />I don't think anyone has said light ice cream is the same as real ice cream or that it's better. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-31352182560304083512018-09-08T21:08:31.713-04:002018-09-08T21:08:31.713-04:00Someone is very fired up about this issue, but it&...Someone is very fired up about this issue, but it's late and I really just want to watch tv. My point is that you shouldnt assume that these companies are trying to protect you from yourself. If it helps you with your calorie count, that's fine, no one is stopping you from eating whatever it is you want to you. What we are trying to explain is that these companies see a bandwagon and they jump on it. They see a way to increase profit margins and have to follow wherever it leads. We "Americans" want the same product at the same price even if our dollar is worth half of what it use to be. It's why we get 48oz of ice cream instead of 64oz nowadays. It's why we get 110 calories a serving instead of 150 calories per serving. It's not about you. It's about keeping those razor thin profit margins alive. Eat what you want, but don't get mad if I don't appreciate 20% of shelf space being sucked up by food I can't consume. I have the right to be flustered if a company spends more time with erythritol than they spend on giving me new flavors. I can get mad and I will show it through my purchases. <br /><br />This is just an open forum but try to focus on what matters. If you read back your comments tomorrow, maybe you will see they could have been more friendly. You don't need to nitpick. Stick to the facts. You like these new fangled things and that's fine. Just don't lecture us that "light ice cream" is the same as real ice cream. That's all.Dubba Scoopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07135130511349727532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-12200406723942774442018-09-08T19:44:10.918-04:002018-09-08T19:44:10.918-04:00LOL, my teeth are good and I brush frequently but ...LOL, my teeth are good and I brush frequently but thank you.<br /><br />Also, I'm not sure how my comment was any more insulting than claiming that people are brainwashed by fads/hipsters/jumping on a bandwagon for enjoying a product, but whatever.<br /><br />By the way, the whole obsession with nostalgia and demonization of progress isn't just in regards to ice cream or food in general. A lot of Americans (usually Boomers) do that about many other things. The whole nostalgia worship thing dominates American politics as well.<br /><br />Furthermore, I'm only talking about Americans here not the majority of the planet. 70% of Americans are overweight. Anyone who is overweight is not practicing portion control. They are consuming more than they burn. That's pretty irrefutable.<br /><br />Now some people are a little overweight and they don't care. That's cool, I have nothing against them. It's your life. Just like people who smoke : it's your life.<br /><br /> But to look around you (beyond your family and coworkers) and say we as a country don't have a problem is to bury your head into the sand.<br /><br />Then again, you live up north and not in the south or midwest, where it's all concentrated.<br /><br />I had a relative who was always overweight but not huge, and they still lost their life to Type 2 diabetes. So forgive me for getting annoyed with people who claim that sugar causes less damage than artificial sugar.<br /><br />Btw, I have had negative gut reactions to some fake sugar before. Xorbitol, I think it was : the one that's used in sugar free Jello pudding. The ones used in Halo Top don't bother me. I have never had Enlightened or Artic Zero so I can't speak on them.<br /><br />Yes, I understand inflation and profit margins but what does that have to do with what we're talking about?<br /><br />Now it just sounds like you're calling anything you don't enjoy "lower quality". Many of these light ice creams have raw cane sugar (in edition to fake sugar) organic milk and eggs in them. Where is the lesser quality? And not everybody likes super dense rock hard custardy Hagaan Daz or Graeters, or at least not all of the time.<br /><br />You tell me not to "overestimate their worth" but who here (me or otherwise) has come close to doing that? I and the other Anon simply said they are tasty, worthy products, amid all of the other comments in this thread and your other threads bashing them, and calling people brainwashed for liking them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-42696945472329009442018-09-08T09:13:06.805-04:002018-09-08T09:13:06.805-04:00ok, time for me to jump back in again. I don't...ok, time for me to jump back in again. I don't think you needed to insult that many people in a single comment. Going line by line, it's probably easier to figure out who you DIDN'T insult.<br /><br />I'm pretty sure more that 30% of people understand portion control. I work in a small office and most of us understand portion control. I'm not saying we follow it 24/7, but we all understand the concept. I'm sorry your parents didn't teach you any. My parents taught me and and I teach it to my kids.<br /><br />Also, you speak as someone who has never had a reaction to a sugar replacement. Take it from someone who has, it's not fun and it's not worth it to many of us. Do you believe that profit margins have nothing to do with all the food science that has gotten mixed in to our ice cream? Food is a business and inflation is unavoidable. We don't live in a world of magic, they either lower the quality or they jack up the price. <br /><br />That all said, ofcourse you can enjoy these new fangled products. They obviously have some appeal but also don't overestimate their worth. Remember the greek froyo fad?<br /><br />P.S. Brush your teeth more, it will help with that tooth decay<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Dubba Scoopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07135130511349727532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-3035790554444384142018-09-08T01:38:18.702-04:002018-09-08T01:38:18.702-04:00It's distasteful to some because Americans ove...It's distasteful to some because Americans overly romanticize nostalgia/bygone eras and we overly romanticize food.<br /><br />To some people anything that isn't like what mother use to make or buy for them, isn't traditional, old school or Good Ol "All American" whatever, then it's worthless, pretensious, a personal attack against them for existing or it's for "millenials/snowflakes/hipsters"<br /><br />There's never any room for variety or appreciation for advancement or ingenuity or trying to make life a little more pleasant for other people, like you mentioned. It's all about putting whatever was done "back in the day" on a pedestal, and dismissing anything new.<br /><br />Also, I love when folks use the "appeal to nature" fallacy when proclaiming that artificial sugar is worse for you than actual sugar, just because it gives some people the runs.<br /><br />What's a few extra trips to the John, when stacked up against diabtetes, tooth decay or 20+ pounds of excess adipose hanging off of one's torso?<br /><br />Before anyone says "That's why you should practice portion control". Well 70% of us have zero concept of portion control.<br /><br />Many of us were not raised with any, had to learn it in adulthood and can use a little help maintain weight loss or losing weight.<br /><br />So I'm not going to put companies down for trying to help us get that under control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-73148467037224256102018-09-05T13:23:32.542-04:002018-09-05T13:23:32.542-04:00I don't think the issue is people being agains...I don't think the issue is people being against ice cream like product being made for those with health concerns. Its more so that those products take up an increasing amount of shelf space that is isn't equal to the amount of people with those concerns. Further the reality is that most of those products are being marketed from a fitness/health perspective that is sketchy at best.Snack Foragersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-14050401245564971422018-09-05T01:38:31.524-04:002018-09-05T01:38:31.524-04:00@RG: You rock. If Dubba needs a back-up, I nomin...@RG: You rock. If Dubba needs a back-up, I nominate you. You have ice cream distribution down to the 15-degree difference in latitude. I live in Wisconsin, so we are dominated by only what Kroeger, Walmart and Target offer. However, we do have Culver's and Kopp's Custard. And to Anonymous giving very valid reasons for recognizing people with food sensitivities: I see your point. "Ice Cream For All!" is my motto. However, my problem lies with the marketers. One person creates something that people go ga-ga over and then every other company wants to get in on it--and by that I mean getting into our wallets. All too often, "healthier" products are promoted at our naivete. But hey--if you have alternative recommendations, please share. My ultimate dream is that ice cream will one day be the new Soylent. Amandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-24618428234182742032018-09-04T00:46:01.941-04:002018-09-04T00:46:01.941-04:00@Amanda it's crazy that they come here last w...@Amanda it's crazy that they come here last when they are headquartered in brooklyn, and i think the plant is there as well, plus, with time zones we got 4 hours closer to the fall and thus are in higher need of pumpkin spice overloadRabbit Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-14072166783084830802018-09-03T19:52:38.646-04:002018-09-03T19:52:38.646-04:00RabbitGirl, if we are not all cyborgs by this fall...RabbitGirl, if we are not all cyborgs by this fall, maybe the new flavor for Enlightened will spread to NYC soon. So far, it is in stores out west in California (e.g. Vons) and in the midwest (e.g. Jewel-Osco). I am sure Enlightened will be all over the place in no time. Here is where I first saw it: https://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/wordpress/2018/08/31/pumpkinundation-2018-enlightened-barista-collection-pumpkin-spice-latte-ice-cream/<br />Latchkey Nerds: Fascinating! If you have a blog, I need to follow it. <br />Last Anonymous post: Sorry for all the GI issues (I feel your pain, ugh.) Thanks for the Banana ice cream recommendation. I love bananas and PB, so maybe I will look for Outshine (never heard of it.) Yes, the GI system: what a bitch.<br />Amandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-52202999056940353322018-09-02T00:22:09.673-04:002018-09-02T00:22:09.673-04:00I have diabetes, gastroparesis and GERD, so my foo...I have diabetes, gastroparesis and GERD, so my food intake can become erratic + severely restricted during a health crisis. As of now, my favorite alternatives are Outshine’s Non-Diary Scoops. They’re not perfect (the banana flavoring overrides the other ingredients) but it’s quite soft on my stomach and I like the combinations they have so far. Yasso Greek Frozen Yogurt products have a weird texture but the taste is good. Their Mint chocolate ice cream sandwiches are great after tempering for about 10 minutes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-65283125006682225802018-09-02T00:21:43.071-04:002018-09-02T00:21:43.071-04:00@amanda where'd you spot that, i can't fin...@amanda where'd you spot that, i can't find it in NYCRabbit Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-65720831097179118352018-09-02T00:12:39.877-04:002018-09-02T00:12:39.877-04:00I can assure you people are not pretending to have...I can assure you people are not pretending to have food allergies or sensitivities and not all ice cream alternatives use sugar replacements. Even if the amount of people in the world who have restricted diets is small, why does that deem them unworthy of having any product at all cater to them in the market? 99% of products are for those who can enjoy food without major restrictions, why is 1% such a hindrance? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-40707908824939485722018-09-01T18:34:11.248-04:002018-09-01T18:34:11.248-04:00Because many of those sugar replacements are worse...Because many of those sugar replacements are worse for the body than actual sugar, and many people buy them not because they can’t have sugar, but because they’re hipsters. Just like the whole gluten free craze, when the list of people who actually have celiac disease is relatively smallLatchkey Nerdshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11497194217628438921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-31904061946088307522018-09-01T02:27:39.385-04:002018-09-01T02:27:39.385-04:00Hi, (Anonymous 2, I think?). I am all for people ...Hi, (Anonymous 2, I think?). I am all for people eating whatever they want. I am sure there are plenty of things people would look dubiously at me and say, "You eat THAT?!" Anyway, if I didn't have food issues myself, I would eat (at least) a pint everyday and skip merrily down the ice cream aisle with my spoon in hand, picking out whatever I wanted. I would be very interested to hear if you have any favorites or recommendations for alternative ice creams. I don't know what dietary restrictions you have, but I just saw this: Enlightened Barista Collection Pumpkin Spice Latte Ice Cream. Never tried it, so I can't give a yes/no recommendation. (I didn't know there was a "Barista Collection.") Hi, Dubba! Great list as usual. The Museum of Ice Cream should hire you as a curator/collector.Amandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-66276240246059011712018-08-31T19:29:06.018-04:002018-08-31T19:29:06.018-04:00This list is impressive! I've tried maybe 1/15...This list is impressive! I've tried maybe 1/15th of it...Guess I have some catching up to do >DNick Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-59386619022343056092018-08-31T01:38:06.448-04:002018-08-31T01:38:06.448-04:00Why are people so against ice creams/frozen desser...Why are people so against ice creams/frozen desserts whose sole purpose are to allow those with allergies or diet/health restrictions (whether self-imposed or otherwise) some semblance of normalcy such as having an everyday snack when it’s as simple as not purchasing products they do not have any interest in? There are children, elderly and chronically ill/disabled people who can finally have a little bite of ice cream. Why is that thought so distasteful to some?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-71746048125188086712018-08-29T07:23:12.477-04:002018-08-29T07:23:12.477-04:00@May: the Baskin-Robbins at home pints are definit...@May: the Baskin-Robbins at home pints are definitely a step below their scoop shop stuff, and then factor in the coffee, and i say Nay! But thank you for sharing, much appreciated!<br /><br />@RG: +2 for working robopocalypse into the conversationDubba Scoopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07135130511349727532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-30112879612690196882018-08-29T00:41:26.539-04:002018-08-29T00:41:26.539-04:00I expect that by the end of the century, we'll...I expect that by the end of the century, we'll all be cyborgs anyway, no longer requiring food, so the ultra light ice cream fad will definitely fade out by thenRabbit Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-79336617884893330502018-08-28T23:43:25.826-04:002018-08-28T23:43:25.826-04:00Man, I'd been dying to find any reviews ANYwhe...Man, I'd been dying to find any reviews ANYwhere of those new Dunkin/Baskin pints before finally caving and just buying one (the Coffee Choc Chip) myself. If you really hadn't tried it, spare yourself. It's vile. Amazed it carries either the Dunkin or Baskin name--each should be ashamed!!Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02682960262952839039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-81365227160861011632018-08-28T22:48:50.617-04:002018-08-28T22:48:50.617-04:00@Anon: cant wait for the current ultra light fad t...@Anon: cant wait for the current ultra light fad to pass us by. (and yes, while I am still avoid soda and candy and high fiber things, I'm totally eating ice cream again!)<br /><br />@D: BOOOOOOOOOOO on them. Hope the new owners save them from themselves. I'm ok with paying a higher price for their all natural stuff<br /><br />@Sascha: let's call that a typo shall we. I mean the answer was right in front of me and I still spaced out. Maybe I could also blame the fact that this post has been in the works for... 5 or 6 months.Dubba Scoopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07135130511349727532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-33977964449612620812018-08-28T19:07:05.135-04:002018-08-28T19:07:05.135-04:00Dubs, the banana based Outshine line does not feat...Dubs, the banana based Outshine line does not feature granola. Saschahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06126199950745024696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-32062488389011615222018-08-28T05:38:36.191-04:002018-08-28T05:38:36.191-04:00Dubba remember when I mentioned THs restructure? W...Dubba remember when I mentioned THs restructure? Well I picked up my fav flavor Double Dunker and it's now a FDD! Ahh I'm predicting a Breyers scenario :(Daniellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-384329692727378622.post-74029482978295310072018-08-28T01:04:03.117-04:002018-08-28T01:04:03.117-04:00Bravo, Dubba! What a tremendous cataloging of all...Bravo, Dubba! What a tremendous cataloging of all things Ice Cream. I commend you for your work, but I must admit, I was a bit dismayed as I perused further down your list: we started with the delectable and then delved into the fat-free, dairy-free, gluten-free, vegetarian, protein-packed varieties. It is a lot to take in and a lot to admire how savvy marketers are. I was most surprised with Talenti. How do you make gelato low-cal? I googled a bit, and found some claim that "new technology cuts 98% of sugar in gelato!" All of those low-carbers must be having their Golden Age. Something for everyone, I guess, and thanks to you, we all can have a handy "users guide" to modern day ice cream. Thanks, Dubba. Hope you are feeling better to try a spoonful here and there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com